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[Brian]

Which is actually pretty dumb, since Neda could theoretically win F3 HOH a lot more likely than him. But, a bunch of stuff in this game has been dumb/not made complete sense, so why stop now?

[boog]

brian idk why u think neda is like this comp threat?? love her to death but no

[boog]

[Brian]

Sept 3, 2015 23:00:19 GMT -5 boog said:

brian idk why u think neda is like this comp threat?? love her to death but no

I only meant it in comparison to Matt, so...I'm not sure why that's odd?

[boog]

Sept 3, 2015 23:11:48 GMT -5 Brian said:

Sept 3, 2015 23:00:19 GMT -5 boog said:

brian idk why u think neda is like this comp threat?? love her to death but no

I only meant it in comparison to Matt, so...I'm not sure why that's odd?

no 

[boog]

Hi Matt, sorry to see you here

[memphis]

For what it's worth, if this really is your second ORG ever - you did well making it this far in an intense AS game and beating out a lot of players who have been playing these for years lol.

[matt]

Yeah lol, it was my second game. I definitely know a major portion of why I made it so far was because I couldn't win anything lol, but hell, fourth place is fourth place, I'm proud of that. Even if i was essentially some random dude in the dark lmao

Also hey Boog, I'm sorry to see me here too, but I get to see you again so HAY MAYBE LIFE ISNT THAT BAD

[matt]

I just got done reading up on the Jury thread. First of all, I would like to apologize to Heather. I would definitely say that I jumped the gun and went against you. Originally I wanted you to go, just because I remembered how good of a gameplayer you were in rnf8, and that bothered me. I knew Nick was good too, but the way I saw it at the time, after keeping boog and horribly lying about it for no real reason, I figured you would be more likely to have a reason to put me up than Nick would. In retrospect, I was wrong lol.

Every single one of these comps frustrated me haha. I think I started to get the hang of it towards the end (but still lost because lol no). Also Nick can go 2 hell. When we were duos, and we had that Rainbow Pyramid, he was out of town and said he would only be online for a bit. So me tired of losing, I went ahead and coded everything so the pyramid was in place and correct. then i coded every post for the entire HOH, so all we would have to do is go back and forth and copy and paste every line. He couldn't get his hotel wifi to work so he said he'd do it on his phone. i sent him everything and I got ready, after like three posts he said we should just do a DNF. Which I totally get because he was on his phone and that would have sucked. But still, I wept myself to sleep that night obv (is it apparent that I'm drinking?)

Keith, I have absolutely no idea why I was trying to convince you it was someone else who didn't vote to save you. Immediately after we stopped talking I realized how stupid I sounded lol. 

In regards to the game. My first season, I jumped in too quickly with talking game and it blew up in my face. So I decided this season I'd hit the brakes with it, figuring I'd just try to befriend people first, so it came more organically. I mean it worked, I was sort of just trying to stay out of the spotlight of the game and just be the guy who would rather chat about someone's day than trying to get info out of them. Especially in the beginning, I really had to go out of my way to reach out to a few people in the game. So idk like, I had to build myself up to a point where people would work with me. Granted, I didn't vote in time for Nicole's eviction, so by like what week two, I was already labelled as some random shady dude. As it turned out, I was very shady this entire season though, so maybe I shouldn't be complaining, eh?

[Brian]

Don't worry on the shady thing Matt. You'd be far from the only person this season to be shady, lol.

[heather]

Matt I was pretty hard on you but I think that you've grown a lot as a player over these past few months and you should be proud! You made it to the Final Four and were the last Season 8'er left standing so props!

The whole Final 12 situation upset me more than anything because I really trusted you to come through for me at that point and I was completely blindsided. That never happens to me in games. Ever. You were so reassuring and it made no sense to me why you'd do that. I was kicking myself too because I hadn't trusted you much until you made an alliance with Zach and me but after that I let my guard down and I got burned. After that excruciating campaign by Zach, you and I to get Brian to keep Keith it seemed so pointless. I thought we bonded over Brian being so frustrating to deal with lol.

Also this reminds me, Brian, Matt and Mike: I'm not sure how serious you guys were about that guys alliance with y'all and Zach ('Brodown Showdown') but Zach told Memphis, Nick and me the minute that was formed and relayed everything you four talked about back to the three of us over Skype and in our alliance's AIM chat.

Matt that's a huge reason why you went up with Mike the round I won my second HOH. Sofia also made a deal with me prior to results (an alliance called 'Fire & Ice' complete with a well photoshopped graphic that she made), so Boog (sorry Boog) would have probably been the real backdoor that round had it come to it (in hindsight Sofia had access to my confessional so she knew what to do and what to say to me before I was crowned HOH to save herself. She was also telling Zach and me about how Mike was asking her to use the Veto on him if he chose her to play in the comp, and that she told him she would but that she wouldn't... but that's neither here nor there I guess since she threw it and won as Ryan anyway.)

Mike, Zach also me about how you said I should get ready to sit on the block if you won that endurance, so that just made me more determined to win and get you out. I'm sure you weren't privy at the time to a lot of info and I couldn't just blab everything I knew but I tried to be as honest with all of you guys as possible (not promising anything) so I was very confused by you in particular attacking me in your eviction speech.

Hayley and Rachelle had, in my mind, more justification to be upset with me than you did Mike. Especially Hayley who I went out of my way to promise safety to and wasn't asked for safety from (Rachelle). I felt really bad about that one but that was the point in the game where I stopped doing arts & crafts and getting spirit badges with Memphis at summer camp and started to really play a more aggressive strategic game. I just felt like Ryan could help me more individually than Hayley could because he and I were "close" and because of comps (lol I wonder why!) Hayley was collateral damage because of the partners thing.

After Shilpa left because so many people were scared to stick their necks out, I felt like I had to secure my spot with the people who I ended up working the closest with. My game took a dramatic turn and I decided that no one on that losing side of the numbers would go to bat for me (no one did for Christine or Shilpa at least). I was undermining Zach subtly before that (that was why I evicted Ika and Nicole over Keith by the way, who Zach hated at the time) but it was sort of an if you can't beat 'em join 'em thing at a point.

Anyway I hope that adds some clarity for people.

Again congrats on placing so well Matt!

[Brian]

I can't speak for the others, but I only sort of "just went with" that 4 guys alliance thing since it was brought to me and I wasn't going to just say no even though I still thought Mike was a bit sketchy. Plus, I couldn't well consider that a hidden alliance from Zach or anything with Zach being right freaking there, so I just figured it was something that could maybe help me if I was up on the block and that was mostly it.

With that whole Keith situation, I should've just done my initial plan that I told Matt about and flat out told Zach and you guys "I'm keeping Boog, so whether you let Heaven go like she should, or let Keith go is on you three". That way Matt wouldn't have been able to do what he did to try and pin it on me since Heather, I NEVER should've let you and Zach talk me out of it and make me go "fuck it fine, I'll compromise for the group", and doing so's one of my biggest regrets in this game.

And wait, Sofia called your alliance Fire & Ice? Dammit, that copying bitch. That was the name of my side alliance with Estelle way back in Season 3, lol.

[matt]

In terms of Zach relaying. That whole alliance wasn't anything I was really trying to keep hidden, just nobody asked about it. With the exception of you, zach, brian and Boog. Everyone else just called me an "Enigma" and moved on. I could for sure tell that Zach wasn't 100% in that, but there really wasn't that much I could do. (He's a good player, but he's absolutely horrible at giving reasons for eviction). The first time he put me up, he straight up dodged me and sent me a pm saying "sorry we can talk later", and even when we did talk, it was less about talking and more about "I have a good reason, see?" So I talked with him and we were cool, but yeah, Zach was sketchy af, and it was clear he didn't trust anybody there from the beginning of it lol.

Hell, one of the reasons I came up to you and tell you I was voting you out was because I figured after everything I put you through the week before, you shouldn't have to end your run on some random blindside, ya know?. If I won that endurance comp, I wouldn't have put you up. After Mike left and i saw you two were at odds, I figured I might as well start talking to you before I became next. (From that same "if you can't beat em, join em" mentality.

I would be lying if I said that I trusted you in the game though, but that was because I was kinda out of the actual game, so I didn't know where loyalties stood. Thank you though, Heather! It was really nice to actually get to know you this season

[boog]

Brian remember when u messaged me like 5 mins before results went up for Keith's eviction and you told me u were keeping Keith bcz u thought it was best for your game and then I stayed and it was a little awkward? I loved it.

[boog]

side note: if we can get people for the jury round table tonight or tomorrow, that would be best. I don't have Internet from Sunday until idk so I wouldn't be able to do then.