ok i'm gonna keep this briefish. my vote is pretty up in the air right now? y'all both played pretty great games. we worked together and against one another in various capacities and i'm glad i had the opportunity to play this game with you guys!!! i've just got some simple questions for y'all. nick pls answer in text form tyia
zach
what made you so comfortable keeping the trio around until they were ejected? assuming your HoH had gone as originally planned - sofia gets BD, heaven uses secret veto on her and ryan goes up, ryan leaves without heaven/sofia being ejected - what was your plan to get past them knowing heaven and sofia both stood strong chances of winning their way to the end?
nick
i feel very used by you. time and time again i put my trust in you and you assured me consistently throughout the game that it was well-placed. all i want from you is a solid, honest answer: what were your plans with me in this game? did you intentionally abuse my trust? at any point did you intend on sticking with our final 2 deal that you made with me the first day of the game? if so, what changed and why?
what made you so comfortable keeping the trio around until they were ejected? assuming your HoH had gone as originally planned - sofia gets BD, heaven uses secret veto on her and ryan goes up, ryan leaves without heaven/sofia being ejected - what was your plan to get past them knowing heaven and sofia both stood strong chances of winning their way to the end?
It's so meaningless now that we know they were all the same person...but from what we know of the trio they were all characters. While one person operated in the control room behind the scenes controlling three accounts, they all had different relationships with players. Sofia hated Nick but Ryan liked him for example. So I was very confident in my relationship to the HEAVEN character. I think she'd still have worked with me even if I did end up nominating Ryan at that point. Heaven claimed to have been closer to Sofia than Ryan. I mean obviously who knows what would have happened if Heaven whipped out that veto and saved Sofia. And what conversations would have been had during that crazy scene. We learned so much from the expulsion after the fact it's hard to say. And to me I would have looked like a hero to all the non trio people if I got one of them out. You and I had just formed an alliance. I was working on my relationship with Boog. Heaven would know (from my Dr lol) that I wasn't wanting her out. She had an HoH advantage and I expected her to win next. My main opposition would have been Sofia. I was in a good position while the trio (soon duo) were still in the game. But I was left very exposed when they got removed.
What made me so comfortable keeping them around is I knew I would be the next target with them gone. Everyone is all but confirming that. The trio knew I felt that way too, and not just from reading my Diary Rooms. I had lots of conversations with them about that fact. It was obviously better for my game to have the bigger targets still in so I could get as close to the end as I could. I knew people looked at me as trio-lite. I wasn't afraid of them possibly making the final two with me either. To me they had such shitty social games. Heaven was also evicted. So the idea of ending up next to her wasn't such a bad thing. I also had beaten them in competitions here and there. I had just beaten them both in OTEV. Obviously I didn't know they were cheating in them so to me they weren't that intimidating as far as steam rolling went. All it took was one slip up. And I was confident enough in challenges to not be scared about it.
Bottom line is, straight from your mouth in your departing video, you didn't want to sit next to me in the F2 as you wanted to win. Indicating that it was a bad idea for anyone to sit next to me. I knew this perception and that is the answer to why the trio were not a concern for me. I wish that wasn't the case, after learning all that we learned, but that is why I was comfortable keeping them in.
i feel very used by you. time and time again i put my trust in you and you assured me consistently throughout the game that it was well-placed. all i want from you is a solid, honest answer: what were your plans with me in this game? did you intentionally abuse my trust? at any point did you intend on sticking with our final 2 deal that you made with me the first day of the game? if so, what changed and why?
Understood! You and I had a whoooole lot of ups and downs in this game and it ended on a downer, so I understand where you're coming from. Our relationship was easily one of my most prominent throughout the game. Did I use it as a tool to get further? Absolutely. To me this is a game about using relationships to advance yourself, and that's what I had to do to get here
That certainly does not mean that I was always fake with you. I was VERY real with you a lot of the time, and I did have your back more than you may think. EXAMPLES!
I was on your side early on with the ~drama when you felt personally attacked. I never ratted out our four person Skype talks so your trust in me there WAS well placed. When you told me Boog was MVP I didn't tell Zach or my other allies because I knew you and her would be targeted for it, I just kept pushing it onto Sofia. When I correctly assumed you were MVP I once again pushed any suspicion off of you that was coming your way. One thing you might not know is that on the day of your eviction, I was the only other person besides Boog who was considering keeping you. I talked to Neda in depth about it. She thought you had gotten through to me in your campaigning, but it was just me genuinely wanting you to remain in the game so we could help each other out a little bit longer at least. Neda was pretty adamant about you leaving, so it didn't end up happening. Sure I could've thrown you a pity vote and maybe you'd be less mad at me, but it would've felt like an empty gesture to me and people might've just seen me as trying to work on Jury votes, so that might not have been good for me
A bit more on that round, Zach was initially targeting just you and was gonna nominate you with Matt. He had noms all written up but I worked to get him to flip to Boog/you because I knew your best shot at staying was against Boog, and I most definitely wanted her out over you at that time. I helped you out with what to say to Zach (about Boog wanting to backdoor him when Heather left) in order to increase your chances. This wasn't so I could continue using you, it was so we could continue to help each other going forward. Sadly when Boog won the Veto, I knew it was gonna be you and at that point I had to be okay with it for the sake of my game. You said I'd be leaving the next round if Boog was HoH, but I knew I wasn't in any scenario, so it simply wasn't the worst thing for my game had you left
I would have gone to the end with you, yes. I know you said I fucked up by evicting you because you would've gone to the end with me, but you also said right after that you would've chosen Boog over any of us and that was pretty clear to me as the game went on, especially since you and I talked end game specifics with one another less and less. Boog would've had to go for me to fully trust that you wanted to get there with me. Neda and I talked about how we envisioned end game to go and you were 100% always apart of those conversations and I always wanted you around
If you're worried if I was nasty in my DR about manipulating you or talked about how I had you around my finger or anything, don't be. I never saw that as the case and never treated it that way in my diary room. I tried not to be cruel whatsoever in the way I went about it, I was just very pragmatic with the way I approached those relationships throughout this game. I did have a lot of fun playing with you for the first time and I hope you feel the same way despite our wild relationship