Post by Brian on Sept 10, 2015 2:02:45 GMT -5
(So, this is a bit long but you guys were expecting that anyway.)
Hey Final 2! Now, I could be all bitter and stuff over things that happened the last 2 rounds I was there, but that's not something worth venting over. Besides, with what I survived, endured, and was able to put up with, that's nothing, so good job on you for being here. I've been in contact with you both in at least some sense for pretty much my entire game life, so even without being in on all of it, I've seen a good amount of how you guys have been during highs and lows, so that's something I have to factor in. Where it stands now, I could see myself voting for either of you, so with that I'll get to questions.
Zach:
When this game first started, things were incredibly awkward between us and I remember the sort of weird 2-3 days it took for us to have our first conversation, which is on me as much as you. I'd be lying if I said that I wasn't glad that we at least appeared to bury the hatchet through the game and that it didn't at least feel genuine on my end. That being said though, I can't just go all "hey, we're cool again so that's all I need to vote for you!". I have to look at more than that, and there are some ways things came across that bothered me. A bunch of the time it would come across like you were being a bit scared or overly paranoid (not quite the same type as the "I don't know if I can trust these people with anything" type I had though) of everything just exploding out of nowhere and screwing you. It was also noticeable with some of your ceremonies, vote suggestions, and even other things like your goodbye message to me (when I get your vote was part loyalty, and part pragmatism). I don't think I'm entirely the only one who feels this way, but sometimes it made it come across to me like you were really trying to "justify things to yourself" whether that was truly your intent or not.
As well, there were times when I felt like you weren't taking my input into consideration when we would have either individual strategy talks, or group chats, etc. I get that part of it was me being anti-Trio (or at least for reducing their numbers a bit), and you being for using them, but there were times when I felt as if not going with what I suggested, be it for nominations, replacements, or the occasional eviction vote wound up negatively impacting both of our games. It was as if for example, when Keith went, your determination to keep Heaven instead of letting her get evicted as I wanted let to some things happening or being more difficult that could've been avoided. I'm not upset about it on a personal level, as I fully understand being stubborn with what you want and not budging. That may have led some people to question your game for being "simple" or "boring", but sometimes simple is the most effective. Now, since I sometimes have the belief that "if you need to win an individual challenge in order to survive the round, you've made a mistake along the way", I'd like to ask you to tell me what 3 rounds that you had power (HOH, POV, etc) that you feel you would've been in the most danger in without them, and what you would've tried to get through them. Think of it as a way to test how you read situations.
Nick:
Coming into this game, I think we both fully expected to hate each other and have the other target us first chance they got. Yet, we both managed to at least get along on the surface better than we realized. The thing is though, I was never sure how much of it was entirely legit. I don't so much mean from a game standpoint, since even though we talked game, I figured everyone in a cast this size would have a thousand side deals anyway, but moreso in an actually getting along aspect. I'm kind of curious on what's going to come up with both you and Zach's DRs when the game ends, to be honest. While you were around a good amount, there were moments where it felt more like you came to me simply out of needing something and that it was a little bit of a matter of me just being told of things instead of technically involved in them. That sort of put something in the back of my head that kept saying not to fully trust you. You being on the block a number of times (including next to me) and surviving is an impressive thing regardless of how it might come across to some.
You talked about being the type to "do what needed to be done" and how the things you did were all to get you closer to winning. That being said, it comes across as understanding the time comes to cut people loose sometimes whether you like it or not, which as we all know, happens in a game like this. What I'm wondering is how different the Final 6 was from your preferred Final 6. Also, which of Zach's HOH's do you think the round would've been most different were you HOH instead, and why? Plus, if there's other reasons on why you think I should vote for you over Zach, feel free to put them there.
I realize a lot's already been said and that after having to re-write this it's quite late at night, so I want to say good job to both of you on making it here, no hard feelings since game is game, and good luck to you both.
Hey Final 2! Now, I could be all bitter and stuff over things that happened the last 2 rounds I was there, but that's not something worth venting over. Besides, with what I survived, endured, and was able to put up with, that's nothing, so good job on you for being here. I've been in contact with you both in at least some sense for pretty much my entire game life, so even without being in on all of it, I've seen a good amount of how you guys have been during highs and lows, so that's something I have to factor in. Where it stands now, I could see myself voting for either of you, so with that I'll get to questions.
Zach:
When this game first started, things were incredibly awkward between us and I remember the sort of weird 2-3 days it took for us to have our first conversation, which is on me as much as you. I'd be lying if I said that I wasn't glad that we at least appeared to bury the hatchet through the game and that it didn't at least feel genuine on my end. That being said though, I can't just go all "hey, we're cool again so that's all I need to vote for you!". I have to look at more than that, and there are some ways things came across that bothered me. A bunch of the time it would come across like you were being a bit scared or overly paranoid (not quite the same type as the "I don't know if I can trust these people with anything" type I had though) of everything just exploding out of nowhere and screwing you. It was also noticeable with some of your ceremonies, vote suggestions, and even other things like your goodbye message to me (when I get your vote was part loyalty, and part pragmatism). I don't think I'm entirely the only one who feels this way, but sometimes it made it come across to me like you were really trying to "justify things to yourself" whether that was truly your intent or not.
As well, there were times when I felt like you weren't taking my input into consideration when we would have either individual strategy talks, or group chats, etc. I get that part of it was me being anti-Trio (or at least for reducing their numbers a bit), and you being for using them, but there were times when I felt as if not going with what I suggested, be it for nominations, replacements, or the occasional eviction vote wound up negatively impacting both of our games. It was as if for example, when Keith went, your determination to keep Heaven instead of letting her get evicted as I wanted let to some things happening or being more difficult that could've been avoided. I'm not upset about it on a personal level, as I fully understand being stubborn with what you want and not budging. That may have led some people to question your game for being "simple" or "boring", but sometimes simple is the most effective. Now, since I sometimes have the belief that "if you need to win an individual challenge in order to survive the round, you've made a mistake along the way", I'd like to ask you to tell me what 3 rounds that you had power (HOH, POV, etc) that you feel you would've been in the most danger in without them, and what you would've tried to get through them. Think of it as a way to test how you read situations.
Nick:
Coming into this game, I think we both fully expected to hate each other and have the other target us first chance they got. Yet, we both managed to at least get along on the surface better than we realized. The thing is though, I was never sure how much of it was entirely legit. I don't so much mean from a game standpoint, since even though we talked game, I figured everyone in a cast this size would have a thousand side deals anyway, but moreso in an actually getting along aspect. I'm kind of curious on what's going to come up with both you and Zach's DRs when the game ends, to be honest. While you were around a good amount, there were moments where it felt more like you came to me simply out of needing something and that it was a little bit of a matter of me just being told of things instead of technically involved in them. That sort of put something in the back of my head that kept saying not to fully trust you. You being on the block a number of times (including next to me) and surviving is an impressive thing regardless of how it might come across to some.
You talked about being the type to "do what needed to be done" and how the things you did were all to get you closer to winning. That being said, it comes across as understanding the time comes to cut people loose sometimes whether you like it or not, which as we all know, happens in a game like this. What I'm wondering is how different the Final 6 was from your preferred Final 6. Also, which of Zach's HOH's do you think the round would've been most different were you HOH instead, and why? Plus, if there's other reasons on why you think I should vote for you over Zach, feel free to put them there.
I realize a lot's already been said and that after having to re-write this it's quite late at night, so I want to say good job to both of you on making it here, no hard feelings since game is game, and good luck to you both.
Prior to the reset and before my strategy went out the window, I could have easily been nominated during the auction round. That was the scariest round of the game for me. It was a time I did not have HOH or POV. Boog was an enemy...but for whatever reason she kept me off the block. I'd like to think it's because she saw potential in me socially.
